On monday, I will be fighting Skynet

[Sinitron]

May John Connor be with me in spirit.

[rtil]

those death robots are really paying the price for years of arching their backs, their necks have completely disappeared

[bd648]

imperial guard vs necron......

uh..... go tau!

[Sinitron]

nobody cares about those stinkin hippie fishpeople

[zwimmy]

nobody cares about those stinkin hippie fishpeople

also they are weeaboos LOOL

[Sinitron]

only sort of, they may look a little like samurai mechs but they're total pushovers in melee despite having little swords and shit

then again i guess being PUSSIES is what makes them weeaboo

but hey when you can get away with 12 basic troopers and make everything else mechs and hovertanks i guess it doesn't matter

[bd648]

*ahem*



tau stealth suits.

[Sinitron]

undecided

the xv15 suits looked way cooler than the xv25 shown there

apparently they were also kind of conflicting with the actual xv8 battle suits

a little like veterans and stormtroopers in IG (where veterans are generally better)

i don't know how this dynamic has changed in their new codex though, if they have a more unique role

also fun fact: the tau were added during their push to make the game more popular in america and japan

bd liking them is proof of superior british marketing manipulation and powers of calculated buttfucks and such

[bd648]

well the tau are my favorite due to their tech and design of their armor and machines (not their species design which i think looks silly) so yes i suppose thats true. not to mention they are the only race in the lore (that i am aware of) that uses diplomacy. but at the same time i have always liked that style so yeah. my second favorite is likely the necron cuz robots. i dislike the IG but the technogists or whatever are my favorite human guys.

[Sinitron]

what part of the IG do you dislike though

keep in mind  they only have common ground in the chimera and leman russ generally

the different regiments have a wide variety of styles, from the mechanized Steel Legion (their style of combat being one of the most popular) to the airborne Elysian Drop Troops and the infiltrator Jungle Fighters

also, the Tau only exist because of the Imperium not annihilating them, as the damocles crusade was aborted when a tyranid hive fleet tendril started coming in from the flank, and they figured the Tau would pose less of a threat than hive fleet behemoth and allowed a ceasefire by orders of a high inquisitor (over the objections of other inquisitors and space marine commanders)

the Tau only continue to exist in the lore because of sheer luck; everybody else is too preoccupied killing each other to care about some communist scum on the fringe of the galaxy that are likely to be eaten by tyranids anyway

for all their 'greater good' nonsense they also treat their allies as shit; they're ashamed of the kroot and hide them away, their gue'vesa (human defectors) are forcefully sterilized and the vespid are essentially suicide troops

they are not the good guys, they're just not worth caring about; they can't be corrupted by chaos as they have no psychic abilities, their expansion is slow, and their numbers are inferior to just about everyone else except the eldar

in addition, all it takes is to splatter a couple ethereals to utterly shatter any semblance of cohesion and morale as they have nobody to MIND CONTROL them into battle

seriously, the ethereals shit pheromones that make other tau willing slaves to their agenda, which is why they hate commander farsight so much but he's also an asshole

[bd648]

yes thats true but you have to realize that if you were to just go with any one tribe or something like the fire warriors there is a strong bond. not between tribes i admit. and they do everything without fucking magical psykers and shit and instead develop extremely powerful weapons. they defended against the orks and tyrannids. and at the very least they are at least slightly decent to other species instead of being like the IG and beating up anything that so much as looks different. And lets not forget those miner guys who have the gunships. They are better to the humans then the fucking humans are to humans. Also they can beat the shit out of the tyrannids with their railguns so they honestly dont need to worry too much on a universal scale.

The IG is pretty much the fucking knights Templar waging fucking holy wars for their emperor. this is the same emperor who has to have like 1000 souls every day to stay alive. Its a complete clusterfuck of random factions and shit who are trying to kill everything else.

[Sinitron]

You're clearly not very familiar with what you're talking about, the Tau do use a psychic race for scouting, but I forgot their name. Ultramarines defended against both Orks and Tyranids, but nobody likes them.

The Imperial Guard are hardly crusaders, they're mostly employed in defensive action while the Space Marines and Sister of Battle do the whole purging thing, of Xenos and Heretics respectively. The humans have to be cruel, and purging deviant elements is one of the only ways to defend against Chaos (which the Tau doesn't have to do normally because they have minimal psychic potential, relying on auxiliaries and pheromones). Usually they just fight orks, rebels, and renegades, and after fighting anything else they usually get thoroughly molested by the Inquisition to ensure they remain untainted. If they fight alongside the Grey Knights, they're outright executed to keep the existence of the Grey Knights secret (which is also why nobody likes the GK).

You also have to understand the God-Emperor of Man never wanted to be worshipped as a God - he wanted mankind to be atheist, to slowly diminish the powers of the Chaos Gods until they could eventually be banished forever and mankind could ascend to become a psychic race safely, and the church that worships him bases their faiths on the Book of Lorgar; the Primarch of the Word Bearers, and the first Primarch to fall to Chaos when the Emperor scorned him for worshipping him as a god. Most humans are kept ignorant to the very existence of Chaos, because ignorance can SAVE them from being corrupted in the first place. Also, the Adeptus Mechanicus, which I believe you were mentioning earlier, worship a 'Machine God'... which is implied to be the most powerful Necron god kept subdued and in hibernation after the Emperor kicked his ass. If this were to be true, and it were to awake, the Imperium would be shattered in an instant and the Necrons would succeed in their goal of eradicating all life in the galaxy, including the Tau.

The Imperium is a terrible place to live, but it is terrible out of necessity. Everyone is out for themselves. As it is stated in several books, the Eldar may appear similar to humans, but would sacrifice entire human worlds, billions of souls, to save but one of their own. It is the most horrible regime imaginable, and it is the only thing preventing everything else from being wiped out by Chaos, Necrons, Tyranids and whatever loony schemes anyone else is up to.

The Tau are a fluke. They're an in-universe joke, their existence being a result of nobody caring to kill them yet. They've only fought smaller tendrils of Hive Fleets Kraken and Behemoth, not the full brunt of the Tyranid assault. Farsight is probably the only reasonable Tau there is, having realized what the Ethereals are really doing when the ones that were taking part in his expeditionary force were killed off and their mind control subsided. Either that, or he's corrupted by Chaos, and you're still fucked.

[Sinitron]

by all means they have some cool models but liking them for their 'diplomacy' and 'treatment of others' is like liking scientology because you think tom cruise has a beautiful nose

which he doesn't

[bd648]

The Adaptus Mechanicus worship the uh.... c'tan dragon thing locked under mars iirc. Not a chaos god.

Anyway the tau have no contact with the chaos as they have 0 psychics. The emperor does his thing which is great and all that to save the universe from chaos. The tau aren't involved in that. They didn't start it and they aren't as affected by it as the humans are. And if the humans weren't actively fighting chaos i would say they are just dandy. But they are fighting against chaos and as a result they are fractured. The tau at the very least is a species that through whatever means has united itself. It did a damn better job at that than the humans did. Even though the etherals control the tau they do it at least half decently and instead of eliminating deviant groups they absorb them into the tau empire. For the size of the tau empire it is pretty damn strong.

Necrons are just dicks to everyone.

(also whats up with farsight? i keep hearing about him.)

[Sinitron]

The Adaptus Mechanicus worship the uh.... c'tan dragon thing locked under mars iirc. Not a chaos god.

Also, the Adeptus Mechanicus, which I believe you were mentioning earlier, worship a 'Machine God'... which is implied to be the most powerful Necron god kept subdued and in hibernation after the Emperor kicked his ass.

as i said

Anyway the tau have no contact with the chaos as they have 0 psychics.

They have at least one psychic subspecies integrated into their fold, as I mentioned. Also, the Imperium was going to exterminate the tribal Tau, but a strangely convenient warp storm cut them off for 6000 years. During this time, the Ethereals appeared, and shaped them into the Tau Empire. In 6000 years, they went from barely being able to light fires and hitting each other with sticks and stones, to becoming an interstellar empire. In the 4th edition Tau codex, which I have right here as my brother is assembling some Tau, there's an excerpt from an AdMech report which suggests something tampered with Tau physiology to increase the rate at which they evolved, and to create different subspecies. It's also heavily implied that the Vespid leaders are also mind-controlled by the Ethereals rather than being voluntary allies.

The emperor does his thing which is great and all that to save the universe from chaos. The tau aren't involved in that. They didn't start it and they aren't as affected by it as the humans are.

Like I said, a convenient warp storm prevented the Tau from being eradicated before they could become a threat, and there's more to the Ethereals than is first revealed.

And if the humans weren't actively fighting chaos i would say they are just dandy. But they are fighting against chaos and as a result they are fractured. The tau at the very least is a species that through whatever means has united itself. It did a damn better job at that than the humans did. Even though the etherals control the tau they do it at least half decently and instead of eliminating deviant groups they absorb them into the tau empire. For the size of the tau empire it is pretty damn strong.

Necrons are just dicks to everyone.

(also whats up with farsight? i keep hearing about him.)

If the humans weren't actively seeking to stop Chaos influence, they would be wiped out by it. You also have to keep in mind they were off to an extremely bad start when the warp storms around Terra dissipated, as it actually was the birth cries of Slaanesh as the Eldar fell from grace. Want to enjoy pizza and anime? Fuck you, these jerks were such depraved scumbags their orgies created a whole new god/goddess that eats your soul if you indulge in any unnecessary physical pleasure, which is another reason why the Imperium has to be so horrible, as any sort of enjoyment could result in corruption.

Also, you are wrong, Farsight is the greatest example of a deviant group in the Tau, and him and his forces were excommunicated for defying the will of the Ethereals. It is unclear what actually happened, but he fought some horrible enemy which killed all his Ethereal commanders, and then he promptly jumped ship. It's hinted that he either discovered that the Ethereals actually enslaved the Tau race and their allies, or that he was corrupted by Chaos through his trademark Dawn Blade, an artifact from a world formerly held by Chaos cults.

[bd648]

Ah sorry i thought you were talking about a chaos god.

The vespid are pretty definitively mind controlled.

And i did not realize that the god that was created by the eldar before they became the eldar and dark eladar affected the humans. in retrospect it makes sense and explains a lot of the imperiam. i kinda get where they are coming from now. the corruption of chaos is kinda a good reason for that. anyway arent the imperiam and the tau on not horrible terms?

nicassar are the psychic tau guys. they are the ones who are always in space and always sleeping.

also get your brother to take some pictures of his tau.

[Sinitron]

well, the tau started trying to 'incorporate' imperial colonies into their fold, and subversion is intolerable so they went apeshit trying to wipe them out

unfortunately they miscalculated the actual strength of their tau, so their expeditionary crusade force proved insufficient to overwhelm them and the operation ground to a standstill

when the tyranids started knocking on the back door, the imperials agreed to a ceasefire so they could get their ships and troops out to halt the tyranids from gaining any ground because nobody likes 'nids

in terms of alliances, tau get along well with the eldar (though they still regard the tau as dumb kids with slingshot tech), and can be allies of convenience with most imperial forces

though more likely than not the inquisition would just execute anyone who so much as thinks the thought of allying with filthy xenos scum

[psi43]

here, take a titan with you to stomp people to jelly

[rtil]

titan

[redmongoose]

what the hell am i reading is this a goddamn starcraft thread