StarCraft II Legacy of the Void multiplayer thread

[RichChap]

i think in a lot of ways i got lucky .. i should watch the game from his perspective. i think he made the right call with the hydras but didn't macro hard enough.

well he was supply blocked for a while so that kind of stopped him from macroing as hard as he could. he had all his drones and at that point it was pretty much a question of could you get your economy back as fast as he could get unsupply blocked.  honestly i would have probably focused fire on the banelings, and/or sacrificed a few hydras to get rid of those banelings before they destroyed all the hydras. the banelings were really the finishing move for him and without them you would probably have been fucked.

[rtil]

i forget when i put down the banes nest but i knew i needed one to win. he didn't even attempt to split his hydras from what i recall.. game probably would have been a bit closer if it weren't for that blunder.

[zwimmy]

"why do all terrans play like a faggot"

-guy who lost to heavy drop harass after his 6 pool failed

top lel

[RichChap]

i just played a game with a terran who literally only built marines for 99% of the game. there was one point where he tried to send some mines over but i had zerglings take those out mid map before they could do anything. i built tons of banelings and zerglings to deal with it and he just kept building mass marines despite this. he almost killed me somehow as i tried to tech up to broodlords and ultralisks, and after i totally outmined my first two bases he kept denying my other expos. once i got a few broods up at his third he was pretty much done for. he tried to baserace me but i still had lings so i kept killing his marine ball, and then he built A viking and took out my broodlords. i got more corruptors and broodlords and then just all in'd and won the game but it was close. it was really annoying that i was literally building a direct counter to his units the whole game but it was still really close.

fuck i am so bad at starcraft.

[zwimmy]

There's no counter to marines, silly.

[rtil]

fuck i am so bad at starcraft.

if you post the replay we can tell you why :P but i'm sure you know what to improve on

[RichChap]

fuck i am so bad at starcraft.

if you post the replay we can tell you why :P but i'm sure you know what to improve on

yeah i dunno, i feel like i don't really play often enough to get better. i managed to get up to silver league once but recently got demoted :[


i watch a lot more games than i actually play and feel like i have a grasp of what i should be doing but i'm just too slow/clumsy to be able to orchestrate anything spectacular.

[cipher]

I had a similar issue back in sc2 beta (more or less). I found myself, no matter how much I focused, always having around 40 APM. Then I just made a decision to purposefully play as fast as I can, tons of spam clicking, etc. My goal was to keep my APM much higher, and over time it became less spamming and more micro and whatnot. And soon after I got promoted. This probably wouldn't work for everyone though.

I should also note this was for getting from gold (where I first placed) to plat, but that was back in beta and everyone was terrible, so now a days it's probably a bit more applicable to lower leagues too

[rtil]

for me, the most important things to improving were:
macroing as hard as i could - better to lose a game because you macro'd too hard, rather than too little
scouting fervently - always knowing what your opponent is doing and what they are up to. tech, # of bases, army location, etc
injection method and habit - i have a modified version of the backspace inject which binds hatcheries to space, allowing me to hold down shit, and spam spacebar and v repeatedly to inject every hatchery lightning fast.

micro doesn't become important until high plat when people start trying to take advantage of flanking, positions, high ground, etc. before this, all you really need is more shit than the other guy.

[RichChap]

for me, the most important things to improving were:
macroing as hard as i could - better to lose a game because you macro'd too hard, rather than too little
scouting fervently - always knowing what your opponent is doing and what they are up to. tech, # of bases, army location, etc
injection method and habit - i have a modified version of the backspace inject which binds hatcheries to space, allowing me to hold down shit, and spam spacebar and v repeatedly to inject every hatchery lightning fast.

micro doesn't become important until high plat when people start trying to take advantage of flanking, positions, high ground, etc. before this, all you really need is more shit than the other guy.

thanks a bunch, this is definitely gonna help me out.

another part of the problem i think is that as the game lives longer people who play it get better so it gets increasingly difficult to get into higher leagues, but one of these days i'll sit down and try to get promoted.

[rtil]

i think the only thing you'd have to worry about is not being up with the new meta/familiar with what builds are currently popular and how to counter them. checking TL and sc2 forums usually gives you hints at what people are currently qq'ing about

[cipher]

if you use reddit there's an /r/allthingszerg board that usually has good stuff about the current meta game and whatnot

(and of course there are boards for terran and toss under the same name convention)

[Lambdanaut]

injection method and habit - i have a modified version of the backspace inject which binds hatcheries to space, allowing me to hold down shit, and spam spacebar and v repeatedly to inject every hatchery lightning fast.

Could you elaborate more on this? That went way over my head.

[cipher]

There's a few ways this can be done, but generally speaking, most zergs will modify a few keys to make their injects easier. The most common way to is to the link the function currently linked to the backspace button to space. What that function does is that on pressing it, it jumps to your hatchery, and if you have more than one, it will jump to the next one each time you press it. Just doing that alone will help a lot with injects.

What a lot of people then do is link queens to one key (usually 5) and hatcheries to another (usually 6, but it's not relevant). So with this hot key rebound to space, and all your queens in one control group, here's how you do injects. You select your queens, hold shift, and mouse over your hatchery. Then just press 'v space v space v' while clicking on your hatcheries, and you will inject larva into all of them in probably less than two seconds. If you have less queens than hatcheries, it'll get messed up though, so watch for that.

I would start with at least just rebinding space, then do the other step once you're used to it.

[Lambdanaut]

Sometimes I feel like this hotkey magic is cheating.

I will use it anyways.
Thanks for the explanation!

[rtil]

it is intended behavior with the game's functionality - the only thing you are changing is a key bind. definitely not cheating

[RichChap]

i have a modified version of the backspace inject which binds hatcheries to space, allowing me to hold down shit, and spam spacebar and v repeatedly to inject every hatchery lightning fast.

goddamn i started doing this today and holy shit my macro got so much better. whatever i was doing before was definitely not what i should have been doing.

[Lambdanaut]

i have a modified version of the backspace inject which binds hatcheries to space, allowing me to hold down shit, and spam spacebar and v repeatedly to inject every hatchery lightning fast.

goddamn i started doing this today and holy shit my macro got so much better. whatever i was doing before was definitely not what i should have been doing.

THIS.
Also I can actually play as Terran now that I'm grouping with ctrl+(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9)
I swear I just went up a league in skill in one night.

[RichChap]

http://www.thebackalleys.com/dump/player.php?f=12715

a replay for your entertainment

[Lambdanaut]

then he built A viking and took out my broodlords.

Rule of thumb, try to have a 1:1 ratio of brood lords and corruptors in a group together. I usually right-click target my corruptors onto a single brood lord so the group moves together, otherwise the corruptors will fly way ahead of the broods