social justice

Started by sev, September 5, 2012 07:10 PM

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sev

i saw this post today and a lot of it gave me an awful headache and reminded me about social justice (and why i often don't like tumblr). personally, i find a lot of social justice people really irritating, mainly due to their obsession with classifying everything and pedantically nitpicking about things like "trigger words" and "privilege", seemingly expecting people to feel guilt about the fact that they were born into circumstances outside of their control and happened to get a slightly better end of the stick than some people (???). but i can never tell whether social justice people are actually stupid or if i'm just bitter because their favorite thing to complain about is white males and because i am a grouchy rigid white dude.

what is your opinion on social justice?


trent bortknob


sev

to clarify, i think a lot of that post is common sense and thus makes sense, but a lot of it is kind of demeaning and stereotypical, like the bit about the "social contract" men make with society because mario games involve saving the princess for her affection, or something (which is entirely untrue and no one would actually let a 90's videogame trope program their way of thinking and seeing the world unless they are mentally unhealthy)


Sheepy

Yeah, there's quite a lot of this on tumblr. Even from kicking a few people off my watch list, I still have the occasional social justice stuff on my dash. I mean yeah, discrimination and social privilege is a problem, take it from me, but when you're picking on fucking EVERYONE, than maybe it's time to just stop. Most of these SJBloggers are mostly white cisgender people anyway, ironically enough. My only real advice is that whenever you see a text post with a title including typical SJB lingo, just keep scrolling.

Speaking of which...

naturally

i wish everyone would stop talking about sexism for like 5 minutes

seriously though. i'm all for social justice, but when i see posts with people explaining to me why i systematically have a rapist mindset because of the media, i don't think it should be too hard to imagine that i get a little frustrated. when people argue things like this they really need to realize what their goal is and what they're trying to prove. and in that tumblr post's case it's equality between sexes, which is also the point of feminism. now why would i have any problem with that?

well, social justice and equality implies recognizing the dignity of other human beings.

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dig·ni·ty

1. The quality or state of being worthy of esteem or respect.

okay, great. this is an easy one. everyone should be acknowledging that we're all worthy of being respected, right?

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... if you think that women can afford to believe that every man is decent at their core and give every guy they meet a chance, you are naive as fuck.


oh.

well, uh....









this post was originally way bigger but i'm just going to delete everything and leave at this, because it gets my point across without me having to rant.

creamcorn

#5
i dont get how what the girl is describing is a male privilige. however, just because some people dont know what theyre talking about, or just want to invent privileges for the other sex to make themselves seem more like a poor victim which subsequently create more privileges for themselves DOESNT MEAN that all these issues are pointless altogether. these are real issues people deal with. issues that, for a lot of people determine how they are gonna live da rest of their lives

rtil

i can't think of anyone i know male or female who would think after meeting someone who automatically assumed every boy she met was a potential rapist was a normally functioning human being.

she makes some obvious and tired points about societal roles, but i'm not sure if she realizes that women are capable of being just as manipulative and predatory as men. there will always be people like that, and you can't let that fact dominate your life. the male equivalent of this blog would be something like, i assume all women are gold diggers even though i know they all aren't. the presumption is a logical fallacy.

Timmy

ugh this is why i hate women!!!!!!!

Sef

I've been reading/watching too much stuff like this

put

I think it's time for you to check your privileges
CIS scum

put

Fucking ableist assholes

Greenkitten




redmongoose

WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE YOU LITTLE WHITE RAPIST YOU CANT HAVE MY VAGINA IT BELONGS TO ME JUST BECAUSE YOU TALKED TO ME WHILE I WAS WANDERING AROUND IN THE DARK BY MYSELF DOESNT MEAN I'M GOING TO FUCK YOU NO MEANS NO ALL OF YOU FUCKING LITTLE FAGGOT WHITE RAPISTS ARE ALL THE SAME WITH YOUR VIDEOGAMES AND YOUR ACTION FILMS WHY DONT YOU JUST TREAT ME LIKE IM THE GREATEST THING TO HAVE EVER WALKED THE PLANET EVEN THOUGH I CANT DIFFERENTIATE YOU FROM AN OCEAN OF RAPISTS IS THIS MAKING YOU MAD YOU LITTLE RAPIST SON OF A BITCH HUH DO YOU WANT TO RAPE ME NOW YOU FAGGOT WAIT COME BACK
Quote from: Inaxisdo u have a problem, bastard?!

put

http://jezebel.com/5938972/a-call-to-arms-for-decent-men
This article is denigrating both women and men and disregards basic human rights 'cus "your freedom ends where my feelings begin"
This is why nobody takes Social Justice Crusaders seriously.

Kött

As a rapist, why should I even bother to make any kinds of advances in the first place? Rape is rape!
The problem begins when certain groups start to consider a case incolving sexual advances due to a lack of rejection by one of the involved individuals rape.

In certain Islamic cultures, for instance, especially in marriage issues, remaining silent means yes. In most western countries, we would consider a woman being married to a man without actively giving her consent a forced marriage. This may or may not be the case, but as a matter of fact, this speciffic issue is a cultural one.

When it comes to the above mentioned rape issue in our society, it is an entirely cultural question as well. No means no and every male is aware of the consequences that unwarranted advances can cause. Even though we live in a civilized world, I now countless people who would lynch a rapist on sight or at least heavily damage his visage and I am probably one of them too. The accusation that males feel entitled to sex for every single good deed or positive advance they make is one of the most brainless accusations that I have ever heard and if such a situation actually leads to a sexual assault, the problem is either based on the fact that the guy is a psychopath who would have done it either way or that the female simply didn't tell him to stop or give him clear signals. I'm not trying to defend idiotic rape myths, such as "females actually enjoy rape once they have submitted", but I am quite certain that most women are usually illustrated way weaker than they actually are in articles like these and that is the real sexism feminists and cisters should be complaining about instead of reinforcing the stereotype.

On a final note, according the ideology of this article, the perfect guy would be the stereotypical, inexperienced softy who makes no advances at females whatsoever and completely leaves the approaches to them, which probably wouldn't work for most individuals...
It is simply suggested way too often that the guys who try to hit on girls are assholes or usually leave a negative impression and reading stuff like this simply intimidates most guys even more; guys who are on the internet and check out these blogs out of boredom; guys who aren't very outgoing to begin with. Those who read this wall of nonsense certainly aren't the ones it is meant for. On the contrary, this circlejerk of feminist cis privilege fanatics might be the incubator of a new wave of sexually frustrated psychopaths and rapists.
:3

Sheepy


Greenkitten

Quote from: Kott on September  6, 2012 01:17 PM
brainwashed multikulti german with a severe case of the cultural marxisms
tl;dr  :slut:



Necronomitr0n

what the fuck does cis even mean/stand for
<+fawx> im trying to animate a dick coming out of a toaster how do i go on about doing this
<~rtil> well fawx what you would do is delete the fla and do something productive instead

<+ansel> i lure children into my van with candy and then i read them passages from 'the origin of species'
<%ropesnake> billy con ends with billy raping his cat
<+billymonks> FUCK YOU BUG

<~rtil> ya one time i gave this hobo some cat food and he ate it like the animal he is it pleased me

put


trent bortknob

cis is short for cisgender, which basically means that you identify as the gender you were born as, as opposed to transgender. it's what most people are