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[rtil]

"i want to go to japan for the culture" is incredibly biased and stupid not just because of the whole anime bullshit, but it's also bigoted against a lot of other countries that have a very deep and rich culture

specifically singling out japan just makes you look like a colossal faggot, like singling out thailand because you've got a fucking ladyboy fetish or some shit

would i go to japan given the chance? sure, but no more than I'd go to for example peru, australia or the easter islands if given an equal opportunity to do so at my own leisure and under my own terms

hell the pyramids of egypt or great wall of china are generally far more impressive than anything else and worth visiting over some place where they eat raw fish

and come on, visiting tokyo? every big city on earth is the exact same pile of concrete garbage, regardless of whether the americans, krauts, gooks or filthy spics put the pile of crappy neon signs together

i can see where you're going with this , but it starts out with a logical informal fallacy - that by saying one wants to visit a country for its culture, one is implying that other countries do not share an equally fascinating culture, and therefore they are bigots for saying something that is not bigoted to begin with. you inserted the bigotry by adding an extra false and loaded statement. that makes no sense. "you are a bigot for visiting japan because you could have visited egypt instead". it sounds even dumber when you say it out loud.

sure i'd like to see the pyramids and other ancient ruins all over the world, but there are other factors that play in to it. like would you really feel safe finding yourself in modern egypt and actually enjoy your time there? i don't think i would.

just beacuse i want to visit japan doesn't mean i don't respect or admire other places in the world. there are too many places i want to see and visit in my lifetime. why do i want to visit japan first? japanese culture is a part of my life. there is a large japanese population where i live, i have japanese friends, friends who have lived in japan, friends i can visit in japan, they can tell me where to visit (and where not to visit), it's a place that's inspired and shaped part of my life, and i'm not ashamed of that. it doesn't make me a bigot in any way. you can't automatically assume one does not respect other cultures simply because they respect another. nobody thinks japan is a perfect paradise. their society has its flaws just like any other.

and thinking all big cities are "the exact same pile of concrete garbage" is just a misled opinion. clearly you haven't been to many big cities, at least i would not imagine so as large cities in europe are not the kind you'd find in japan or the states, but having visited many metropolis type cities in my life i can tell you that each one is distinctive and unique from the other in many ways. there are cities i love and cities i hate, and they are not all the same. they might look the same to you (i don't know how), but when you're thousands of miles away from them it's easy to judge without actually knowing anything or having experienced them firsthand.

[naturally]

a lot of japanese are xenophobic as fuck and generally don't like foreigners to begin with

i'm pretty sure most people who actually want to visit japan are aware of how they treat foreigners, but i don't understand why you would think that that makes the culture any less interesting to someone.

but the fact is a lot of people go to japan for all the wrong reasons and get a hilarious kick to the face when they realize what they actually got themselves into

yes, that's what i was saying as well. people go to visit a country for certain reasons get crushed when they realise it's not what it was made out to be. a lot of japanese people get the same exact thing when they go to france, and actually have a mental break down because of how paris was idealized in their media, on top of many other things.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_syndrome

sometimes countries are made out to be something different then what the person has learned from media or other things, and japan is a really good example of that. but that doesn't make what you're saying any more valid. no one is arguing that it is a good idea to go to japan just because you enjoy their animation, but some people, especially for japan, go as far as that.

"i want to go to japan for the culture" is incredibly biased and stupid not just because of the whole anime bullshit, but it's also bigoted against a lot of other countries that have a very deep and rich culture

i don't understand how you can be as reasonable to say that people visit japan for the wrong reasons, and then go on to say that visiting japan for the culture is an incredibly biased and stupid reason.

it's incredible how you can call something/one bigoted when your sentence alone is extremely bigoted. you're so convinced that someone cannot have a legitimate interest in that specific country that you would go as far to say literally no one should value that country over the ones you believe to be very rich in culture. i am not denying the fact that they are, as i even clarified that i would like to travel the world and am very interested in experiencing many different cultures, despite how foreign they seem to me, but japan has always stuck out as being the most interesting one to me.

hell, i've even come to a middle eastern country for a year just because i thought it would be an interesting experience. i got a lot of "why would you want to do that?" or "isn't that place dangerous?" comments, but why would i give up an opportunity to live in an incredibly foreign country for a year? i'd love to see more places because of all the different things you can learn from other cultures, but i wouldn't rate any of them any higher than the others. just because i have a preference with wanting to go to one one day, does that make me bigoted, biased, and stupid?

how about all of those people that want to visit rome? venice? or even vacation in hawaii?

your argument is about acknowledging other countries, but you refuse to accept the fact that someone may want to go to one country over others, just because they find that specific one interesting. your argument in itself is not only contradictory, but also biased and bigoted. i find it very hard to believe that you are ignorant enough to not notice it, but maybe you are just stubborn enough to not acknowledge your biases.

specifically singling out japan just makes you look like a colossal faggot, like singling out thailand because you've got a fucking ladyboy fetish or some shit

wouldn't that singling out thailand the one to make you look like a faggot, then? or are people just faggots for any reason now?

people want to go to specific countries because they find that specific country interesting for whatever reason they choose. how is it your place to tell people what is and is not acceptable for them to be interested in? i understand that sometimes people decide they want to visit a country for the wrong reasons, even if it is very frequent for one country, such as japan. but does that mean you should automatically throw everyone who wants to go to the country in general into the same group? do you really think that's fair?




really?

[Necronomitr0n]

nobody thinks japan is a perfect paradise.

[rtil]

nobody thinks japan is a perfect paradise.

alright fine, nobody that i know.

[sev]

i can't tell if you're trolling but if you're serious, saying "visiting a country for its culture is bigoted" is an argument that can pretty much never stand on its own. the only other reason i can think of that would make you say something like that is that you actually hate japanese culture so much that you literally see it as inferior to the countries you listed as examples and totally ignored the fact that peoples preferences in the sorts of countries they'd want to spend thousands of dollars taking a trip to is totally subjective and vastly different per person.

either way holy shit what

[G3no]

i would like to go to japan to see everyone's reaction towards their own animation and fanbase

[Sinitron]

i can see where you're going with this , but it starts out with a logical informal fallacy - that by saying one wants to visit a country for its culture, one is implying that other countries do not share an equally fascinating culture, and therefore they are bigots for saying something that is not bigoted to begin with. you inserted the bigotry by adding an extra false and loaded statement. that makes no sense. "you are a bigot for visiting japan because you could have visited egypt instead". it sounds even dumber when you say it out loud.

no, it's a matter of "what do you want to do before you die"

specifically singling out japan as the only country you feel you MUST see and it would be a DISASTER if you didn't see it before keeling over is gayass fanboyism

sure i'd like to see the pyramids and other ancient ruins all over the world, but there are other factors that play in to it. like would you really feel safe finding yourself in modern egypt and actually enjoy your time there? i don't think i would.

i wouldn't feel safe anywhere but my own bed, but if you insist on bringing security into the issue, china has a pretty hardcore police force, and japan has a fucking trashed nuclear reactor and last i heard they were still unable to shut the fucking thing off - how would that make you feel any safer than the risk of having your head lopped off by wasim's fucking cousins??

just beacuse i want to visit japan doesn't mean i don't respect or admire other places in the world. there are too many places i want to see and visit in my lifetime. why do i want to visit japan first? japanese culture is a part of my life. there is a large japanese population where i live, i have japanese friends, friends who have lived in japan, friends i can visit in japan, they can tell me where to visit (and where not to visit), it's a place that's inspired and shaped part of my life, and i'm not ashamed of that. it doesn't make me a bigot in any way. you can't automatically assume one does not respect other cultures simply because they respect another. nobody thinks japan is a perfect paradise. their society has its flaws just like any other.

well see this wasn't even directed at you since you didn't single out japan DUH

and thinking all big cities are "the exact same pile of concrete garbage" is just a misled opinion. clearly you haven't been to many big cities, at least i would not imagine so as large cities in europe are not the kind you'd find in japan or the states, but having visited many metropolis type cities in my life i can tell you that each one is distinctive and unique from the other in many ways. there are cities i love and cities i hate, and they are not all the same. they might look the same to you (i don't know how), but when you're thousands of miles away from them it's easy to judge without actually knowing anything or having experienced them firsthand.

jokes on you, russia is mostly in asia HAH

[Sinitron]

i can't tell if you're trolling but if you're serious, saying "visiting a country for its culture is bigoted" is an argument that can pretty much never stand on its own. the only other reason i can think of that would make you say something like that is that you actually hate japanese culture so much that you literally see it as inferior to the countries you listed as examples and totally ignored the fact that peoples preferences in the sorts of countries they'd want to spend thousands of dollars taking a trip to is totally subjective and vastly different per person.

either way holy shit what

your are a fag

[G3no]

The theme for the current mood in this thread

"Kansas: Ellsworth Penitentiary - Stress" ('Splinter Cell: DA' Soundtrack) by Behavior

[sev]

i can't tell if you're trolling but if you're serious, saying "visiting a country for its culture is bigoted" is an argument that can pretty much never stand on its own. the only other reason i can think of that would make you say something like that is that you actually hate japanese culture so much that you literally see it as inferior to the countries you listed as examples and totally ignored the fact that peoples preferences in the sorts of countries they'd want to spend thousands of dollars taking a trip to is totally subjective and vastly different per person.

either way holy shit what

your are a fag

mad because truth

[Gladius]

mad because truth

look at this guy he thinks "u mad bro" is a good comeback

what a goon!

[sev]

mad because truth

look at this guy he thinks "u mad bro" is a good comeback

what a goon!

mad because dicksuck

[sev]

also just to get these out of the way so i don't have to sit here replying to all of your new posts with each one:

confused because he's never actually successfully trolled anyone here

feeling down because his life is going nowhere

inadequate because permanent virgin

depressed because relations with people around him are faltering

suicidally depressed because dick in hand naruto hentai on screen

double mad because owned 69

[sev]

actually on that note can you just "ironically" spam some gay porn everywhere so someone can stick you in patty flippers? i think we can agree that this would be better for all of us

[rtil]

i can see where you're going with this , but it starts out with a logical informal fallacy - that by saying one wants to visit a country for its culture, one is implying that other countries do not share an equally fascinating culture, and therefore they are bigots for saying something that is not bigoted to begin with. you inserted the bigotry by adding an extra false and loaded statement. that makes no sense. "you are a bigot for visiting japan because you could have visited egypt instead". it sounds even dumber when you say it out loud.

no, it's a matter of "what do you want to do before you die"

specifically singling out japan as the only country you feel you MUST see and it would be a DISASTER if you didn't see it before keeling over is gayass fanboyism

i see you're completely dodging the point but i'll bite.

i would be sad if i never got to visit japan in my life yes but i never said that i NEED to go there or that it would be the end of my life if i couldn't. it's something i'd like to do before i die. it's not my life's achievement or the pinnacle of my existence. even if it was, what exactly would be wrong with wanting to live in japan as opposed to any other country? the same hurdles of adapating to a different culture would have to be made in nearly any other country, and the reasons for doing so would be somewhat similar.

sure i'd like to see the pyramids and other ancient ruins all over the world, but there are other factors that play in to it. like would you really feel safe finding yourself in modern egypt and actually enjoy your time there? i don't think i would.

i wouldn't feel safe anywhere but my own bed, but if you insist on bringing security into the issue, china has a pretty hardcore police force, and japan has a fucking trashed nuclear reactor and last i heard they were still unable to shut the fucking thing off - how would that make you feel any safer than the risk of having your head lopped off by wasim's fucking cousins??

egypt is on the brink of civil war and is a police state. japan has a safe zone around fukushima. i'd feel perfectly safe there if i wasn't near it, and i wouldn't be.

just beacuse i want to visit japan doesn't mean i don't respect or admire other places in the world. there are too many places i want to see and visit in my lifetime. why do i want to visit japan first? japanese culture is a part of my life. there is a large japanese population where i live, i have japanese friends, friends who have lived in japan, friends i can visit in japan, they can tell me where to visit (and where not to visit), it's a place that's inspired and shaped part of my life, and i'm not ashamed of that. it doesn't make me a bigot in any way. you can't automatically assume one does not respect other cultures simply because they respect another. nobody thinks japan is a perfect paradise. their society has its flaws just like any other.

well see this wasn't even directed at you since you didn't single out japan DUH

it's not about me, though.

and thinking all big cities are "the exact same pile of concrete garbage" is just a misled opinion. clearly you haven't been to many big cities, at least i would not imagine so as large cities in europe are not the kind you'd find in japan or the states, but having visited many metropolis type cities in my life i can tell you that each one is distinctive and unique from the other in many ways. there are cities i love and cities i hate, and they are not all the same. they might look the same to you (i don't know how), but when you're thousands of miles away from them it's easy to judge without actually knowing anything or having experienced them firsthand.

jokes on you, russia is mostly in asia HAH

i'll take this as a concession that you're admitting you're wrong, then.

[naturally]

thanks for completely ignoring me and flash even though your argument was against me in the first place

[sev]

moral of this and every topic ever: don't argue about things you're not knowledgeable about

[Sheepy]

the point was that thailand isn't all about ladyboys you dolt

If you really want to talk about missing the point, then be my guest.

[sev]

bucket list: GAMER GIRL EDITION XXX :.

beat no more heroes 2
man up enough to play amnesia
play at least one more katawa route
stop being shit at battlefield 3

[Sheepy]

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