Good and Bad In The World

[zhicago]

if someone from an internet forum showed up at my house for any reason, baby rapist or otherwise, he would have a lot of questioning to go through before he ever got near my child. no worries

edit: pants why did you ruin an interesting topic please go away

[redmongoose]

pants if you try and rape zhis baby im gona fuk u up

[Crabarms]

adding to ignore list now

i tried to do this but it wouldn't let me. i added him like 20 times and it kept taking me to the same screen, saying my ignore list was empty.

[Sinitron]

or you could just you know ban him or disregard everything he says i mean its not that hard and you do it to a bunch of other people

[rtil]

i hardly ever ban people actually

[Pants, the terrible]

RM intentionally missing the point thats new

[Sinitron]

HELP THE DICKYI;;;::...

[ZennyPLUS]

On topic: If there was more "bad" in the world, would we all be subject to doing bad things? Or if bad is the norm, what degree of bad is actually considered "evil"? For example, Robin Hood stole from the rich. Stealing is bad. But he gave his spoils to the less fortunate, which is good. If Robin killed the man that tortured a little village girl, did he commit an act of good or bad? There's so much gray area in what defines the two, so Sin kind of has a point when he said there is no innocence, just various degrees of guilt. For that man to torture the defenseless girl was obviously wrong, but did Robin have the right to kill him? Maybe. It's all matter of... perspective. Just imagine if there thousands of Robin Hoods today in the USA who stole from the rich and gave to the poor, would they be considered just or wrong-doers?

And suddenly everything becomes one big blob of gray. What was once an act of charity (and theft) had become the norm.

Anyway, this is an open ended question.

[Sinitron]

put another way, the guy who shot and killed a bunch of kids at a norwegian summercamp earlier this summer slaughtered a bunch of would-be politicians, and since politicians are all evil he actually did us a favor by killing them before they could run everything into the ground

[Jon]

put another way, the guy who shot and killed a bunch of kids at a norwegian summercamp earlier this summer slaughtered a bunch of would-be politicians, and since politicians are all evil he actually did us a favor by killing them before they could run everything into the ground

it's senseless shit like that makes me wonder if there is any good in the world at all

and i don't really see the upside of the guy killing a bunch of politicians, the killer was an extremist right-wing psycho anyway

on the other hand i know literally nothing about norwegian politics

[Gladius]

I think this material is a little too intense to be properly discussed on an internet forum.

[Sinitron]

it's senseless just like every other example put forth, the point is you can find crime everywhere, imagined or otherwise, if you just bend words enough you can justify anything in your own damn mind (except i did it in a very crude fashion)

SOME PEOPLE actually used this event as an excuse to censor a bunch of online political discussions, forcing people to use their full names in order to make a statement - which of course is just a way to squelch anyone who doesn't agree with the majority because nobody wants to lose their job because they said "fuck this idiot" on an online messaging board which is THIIIIIIIIIIIS OFFENSIVE to dipshits who waste billions on failed foreign investment while cutting down on police and healthcare while crime is on the rise and thousands upon thousands have to wait in line for critical surgeries. oh yeah, and it has to be linked to their facebook profiles, just so everyone has easy access to stone someone's family if they even so much as think about critisizing palestinian 'freedom fighters' and their network of scummy support organizations across the world

there was this one guy who wrote a bunch of political shit on his own personal blog which was a major source of inspiration for the shooter, and he ended up being unmasked and forced against his will into the public spotlight - he immediately lost his job, his home, and became a social pariah because he was opposed to a liberal immigration policy

in this context, there are no good guys - the shooter committed an evil act with noble intentions, the political organizations the victims belonged to used it as an excuse to whore themselves out  and up recruitment (which only worked the first month before people started leaving) and some other pigdicks used it to impose their own brand of bullshit control and ultimately justifying many of the shooter's arguments (which boil down to 'communism is gay')

[redmongoose]

RM intentionally missing the point thats new

You don't have a point man you kind of just changed the subject from good and bad to 'what kind of rape is good or bad?'  To me that sounds like it should be a given honestly if you have to ask something like that, you are sort of missing the point.  What I was trying to do is commonly referred to as 'diffusing a tense conversation with light humor.'  If you SERIOUSLY want to have this sort of discussion let's do it, I'll go back and dissect every thing you said from the start.

so is raping babies and corpses worse than raping men?

Rape is not acceptable in any sort of situation, regardless of what it is you are trying to rape.  Raping a baby is one of the worst things you could possibly even think of, let alone try and commit.  Raping a man is generally almost viewed as a bit of a joke concept (this is assuming that you are referring to a woman raping a man, you never really cleared that part up) as in what man would really feel as if they had been raped or want to refuse the advances of a woman.  Not a politically correct way to think, but that is beside the point. 

Now, if you meant a man raping another man, like what the fuck are you talking about make some goddamn sense instead of writing everyone off just because you don't want to really say anything.  Your point is that it is less impacting for a man to rape a corpse or a child than it is to rape another man because the man would end up with RTS having been aware and cognitive of the fact that what was happening to them was rape and that it in fact was something they did not want to be a part of?

but you wouldn't be psychologically hurting the baby or the corpse, knowing they wont have memory of such an encounter for various reasons, and they would not spread their torment onto others.

so, in the long run, the baby and the corpse are better candidates for rape than a man, knowing that man would eventually become dangerous do to the harmful event in his past.

is a physically disgusting act worse than a more societally harmful one?

This is where you are losing me.  What I'm taking from your observation is that you believe that rape equals bad.  Rape of man equals more bad because that man gets mad and spreads more bad.  Rape of baby equals less bad because baby does not remember bad and does not spread more bad. 
You're trying to analyze this idea as if it were a hypothetical situation involving a poor man and a loaf of bread as in 'but the man is only trying to feed his family so it might be less of a convicting instance'  like
HEY DUMBASS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RAPE HELLO THERE ISN'T A LOT TO THINK ABOUT AS TO WHETHER OR NOT MAKING SEXUAL ADVANCES ON SOMEONE AGAINST THEIR WILL IS MORALLY ACCEPTABLE IN THE FREE WORLD

ok

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_trauma_syndrome

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_and_aftermath_of_rape

that took like 12 seconds to get you. and here's a few more...

http://www.aest.org.uk/survivors/rts.html

http://www.israel21c.org/health/the-trauma-of-rape-more-lasting-than-terror


happy rtil?

now, you're trying to haphazardly validate your claims by posting a bunch of motherfucking internet articles and speaking on the subject as if you have been deemed an expert because you took the time to read all of them.  Are you trying to tell everyone on the forum that someone in your life is a man that was raped and that you don't like them because they act like an asshole towards you and you assume that the reason they are acting like an asshole is because they were raped and not maybe just because said person is some sort of an asshole?  If the case is anything otherwise, I'm going to let you know that you are just coming off as a bit of a man that got raped.


uh

???

[Pants, the terrible]

rm, i was intentionally being silly. its called trolling.

think about what i said and the examples i used. they weren't supposed to make sense

[redmongoose]

trolling is so 2006

[Pants, the terrible]

i barely remember 2006... what happened that year?

[redmongoose]

pokemon started airing on cartoon network the rest escapes me

[rtil]

always hilarious to try and cover up blinding stupidity with the "it was an elaborate act to troll you" excuse

[Pants, the terrible]

well when i'm talking about baby rape vs. man rape, and you buy into it, and post wiki links i googled in literally 12 seconds, i'm pretty sure i didn't mask anything.

think about what you were writing back to rtil... just think about what you were arguing for 1 second... then smack yourself back to normalcy.

[rtil]

i was arguing logically, what you were arguing was stupidity. you should be taking your own advice