firefox or IE

[Blordow]

when it comes to technology these days IE is BAD.

it displays sites incorrectly and cant read code as well as firefox. In my opinion it should be discontinued. It's fucking useless, I've hated it ever since firefox came out. There's no point in having it. Firefox is a much better web browser, has more handy features and is just easier to use. I find it loads pages faster too.

people who use IE are gay and stupid. it just reminds me of old people who don't know shit about the internet and sit on their saggy asses browsing in IE with a dumb look on their face. GUHHHHHH FFFFFUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

DIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

a lot of people do use FF, so if it works in IE you should make sure it works in FF too.

don't have too much javascript css styles and all that jazz. youll make the browser explode. why not just make your alpha stuff as a background image in a table but lower the opacity of it to give the same illusion of alpha.

GET ME???

[rtil]

css filters are not javascript, i don't write javascript. and stylesheets are used by pretty much every major website, it's a great way of creating a universal template to work off of. even then, the design of this forum software is pretty much 100% dependent on css, so i don't have much of a choice. i already did remove the filter and use a transparent png instead.

i've never seen a browser 'explode' because of too much css. this forum has at least a dozen different jscript files and over 2,000 lines of code per page, and its execution time is typically less than a tenth of a second.

i am already busting my ass making a new design for the entire site, so don't think i'm not going to make sure that it's going to function in both browsers. i just wanted to make sure the majority of forum users were firefox users. only 30% of the people that visit my site use firefox, and the old layout looks better in firefox anyway.

either way, i never understood why people get all up in fumes about something as insignificant as web browsers. who gives a shit? they all do the same thing in the end. no need to get out the soapbox.

[W.A.C.]

Both Firefox and IE has their faults. It took Microsoft way too long to release a seventh version of Internet Explorer. IE6 couldn't even view transparent PNGs properly. What type of worthless piece of shit web browser can't even view transparent PNGs? Oh yeah, IE6.

On a lot of forums, a lot of people used to use JPEG format for their sigs simply because IE is too shitty to view transparent PNGs properly. Now if people stopped using Internet Explorer back when the latest version was that shitty, many people wouldn't have chosen to use JPEG format for their images. Thanks to the fact that around 90% of American internet users used IE over anything else back in 2005, many sig makers choose to have their sigs look decent on all browsers instead of just having them transparent on all semi-decent browsers.

As for Opera, it used to be considered by many the most advanced web browser out there. Heck, you used to have to pay money just to be able to use it. It was considered that advanced. A lot of people still love Opera but I never really cared for it. I haven't tried the latest version though.

The only reason I've never downloaded IE7 is because I don't want to download Service Pack 2 and like I said earlier, both browsers have their faults. This website lists tons of complaints about the browser and a lot of the site's complaints seem rather valid. I've only read about half of it so I'm not sure if the second half is near as valid.

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either way, i never understood why people get all up in fumes about something as insignificant as web browsers. who gives a shit? they all do the same thing in the end. no need to get out the soapbox.

When people have to use a different image format just so some images view correctly on all browsers, that alone can be rather frustrating. I once added some worthless transparency to the side of one of my sigs back in 2005 just to tick of IE users. It was funny how angry a lot of them got over it. Not my fault their browser can't handle a popular image format correctly.

[rtil]

as far back as i can remember opera always used to be free? or they had a free version and the pay version was better. a few years ago it was great. now it is falling behind.

ie6 was pretty frustrating to work with yeah. png\\\'s would display this strange color instead of transparencies. thankfully they fixed that problem and many others with 7, there was a huge leap and now i can actually code my site without having to worry about scripting limitations in ie.

i was forced to get sp2 after adobe products would no longer allow me to install without sp2 (this was cs2 and up). the annoying security features can all be turned off. and eventually you will be forced to upgrade. could be years from now depending on what kind of software you use, but i\\\'d recommend it either way , the security patches are meant to make your operating system more stable if anything.

either way, i never understood why people get all up in fumes about something as insignificant as web browsers. who gives a shit? they all do the same thing in the end. no need to get out the soapbox.

When people have to use a different image format just so some images view correctly on all browsers, that alone can be rather frustrating. I once added some worthless transparency to the side of one of my sigs back in 2005 just to tick of IE users. It was funny how angry a lot of them got over it. Not my fault their browser can\\\'t handle a popular image format correctly.

i\\\'m more talking about the people that are like "ie is gay firefox rulez lol" everywhere they go
like the pc vs mac people

[Blordow]

lol netscape pwnmzs

[rtil]

oh yeah i forgot to mention. blordow you were talking about browsers supporting really old scripts. firefox still supports <blink>. i appreciate that because i use it for the 'quote of the moment' thing. other browsers consider it obsolete and removed support for it. that makes me sad

[W.A.C.]

That's really stupid to no longer support a script because it's considered obsolete. I think I use that script as well on a forum I administrate.

[Necronomitr0n]

lol netscape pwnmzs

NETSCAPE???

Holy shit, I forgot that even existed.

[Nadroj0711]

oh yeah, netscape

[rtil]

netscape, mozilla, k-meleon and firebird (the old firefox), are all pretty much dead browsers. together, they make up 0.3% of all the traffic received on this site. safari is getting there with an astounding 3%

[Animegamer]

opera is best

firefox is ok

ie just blows and constantly pops up with annoying messages asking you to install crap