Official TBA StarCraft II Thread

[Sinitron]

yes shame it's been a huge problem all along and resulted in nerfs to creative protoss play (templar storms etc) and a bunch of crutch units like sentries and a-moved colossus to make up for how DUMB blizzard were when they made protoss even worse of a cheesefest than they were in scbw with not just proxy gates and cannon rushes but also warp-in cheese like DT rushes or 4gate and then if you actually stop that NONSENSE you have to deal with a-moved colossus/stalker/void ray balls which take considerably more effort to screw over than they take to pull off

easiest cheese, easiest macro, dumbest units and shittiest gimmicks = protoss

unless you count 6pooling maybe

[Crabarms]

Wonder if they are saving good protoss units for the Void expansion if there is going add more units  to multiplayer.
Its kind of hard to give Terran something really cool because of the variety of units they have. The Widow mine is a really boring idea but it would be excellent for defending mineral lines.
I am glad Zerg will have a new unit to use the Missile upgrade it always felt odd if it was only for infestor/roach.  (sometimes  hydras). Though Viper is a bit over top with that annoying pull ability.

[rtil]

the widow mine is actually a terrible unit to defend mineral lines because it does friendly damage. say a mutalisk picked up that widow mine. now all it has to do is sit above the mineral line , wait to explode, and boom - it takes a bunch of SCV's with it.

[psi43]

can't wait for all the widow mines vs. lings/blings videos

[Crabarms]

the widow mine is actually a terrible unit to defend mineral lines because it does friendly damage. say a mutalisk picked up that widow mine. now all it has to do is sit above the mineral line , wait to explode, and boom - it takes a bunch of SCV's with it.

Yeah I guess it could be used against them. It would be funny to drop a changeling on it.

[Sinitron]

the widow mine is actually a terrible unit to defend mineral lines because it does friendly damage. say a mutalisk picked up that widow mine. now all it has to do is sit above the mineral line , wait to explode, and boom - it takes a bunch of SCV's with it.

WTF BUT SIEGE TANKS DO THAT ALREADY

[Crabarms]

Its a baneling that hits air except it can only attack while burrowed and takes a while to explode. I could imagine them sacrificing their own units to make them work more like a baneling. Maybe have the widow mine attack a reaper and have it go on even more suicide mission. Unless they make it unable to self target allies.

[sev]

Its a baneling that hits air except it can only attack while burrowed and takes a while to explode. I could imagine them sacrificing their own units to make them work more like a baneling. Maybe have the widow mine attack a reaper and have it go on even more suicide mission. Unless they make it unable to self target allies.

that is actually brilliant. i hope that's possible, and something terrans actually do.

[spoiler]i'll be eating these words later when it happens to me every game[/spoiler]

[psi43]

Hahaha. Allah Reaper

[rtil]

since it is a unit, you'd think it would be possible. but i'm not sure if you can manually control its ability.

[psi43]

since it is a unit, you'd think it would be possible. but i'm not sure if you can manually control its ability.

(in case you are talking about the mines)
You actually NEED to do it manually, they don't do it automatically.

[rtil]

what, burrow manually? yeah obviously. but they attach to enemy units automatically once burrowed.

[Sinitron]

i'd be more keen on using widow mines if they didn't cost supply

at least spider mines were a 'free' bonus

if they're going to revert back to BW-style mech, why not just make Warhounds or Thors crap mines? would give some use for that stupid energy bar and add some desperately needed utility to an otherwise largely a-moved brick

[sev]

"fuck this game"

[Sinitron]

that's what every protoss says when they realize they can't 4gate to the GSL anymore

[sev]

close

i started cheesing a lot but not 4gating. cannon rush, 2gate proxy, and some one base allins like void bust, dt rush and i'm looking to screw with immortal busts too

usually my trademark "fuck this game" comes from losing long macro games that i transition into after not doing enough damage with the cheese

[Sinitron]

2gate is 4gate for retards

[sev]

works better than 4gate though

everyone can hold 4gate now

[rtil]

7gate immortal all-in is the new cool protoss (vs zerg)

[Crabarms]

Beta is now live. Some people are streaming it so it might be something to watch.