when you die

[rtil]

what do you think happens to you when you die? and why do you believe that?

just curious!

i'll start - i think that when you die that's the end. no afterlife, no collective conciousness, no reincarnation, nothing. i believe this because after growing up in the church and looking at it in retrospect, that an afterlife was simply a man-made product of wishful thinking and fear of the unknown. heaven was like a sense of entitlement. and i know that not all religions look at the afterlife the same way, but i'm also an atheist, so it's irrelevant. sure, i think the idea of an afterlife is kind of cool, but the idea of eternal life sounds painfully boring. at first i was scared of this, but now it makes me happy. to know that this is the only life i have to live makes me want to live it to the fullest even more.

your turn  

[WalkingShrub]

^Shit, took my words.
Yeah same thing here.

[Blordow]

I think we move on to spiritual energy or we can choose to go back to physical reality. the way i see it is our reality is just an illusion anyway.

the idea of eternal life is that the possibilities are endless, how could you get bored of doing anything that the mind can instantly create, just by thought? you exist now, you will always exist. that's how I see it.

[Sinitron]

most likely we're just plain ol screwed

[W.A.S.I.M.]

yo i personally believe in afterlife, heaven and hell but thats what i personally think

[Sapphire]

we are all reincarnated into cake

[creamcorn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4AXOmPZ6fo

[CoolDrMoney]

Im more attuned to the cyclical universe idea.

[naturally]

when your body is dead, your brain is still alive. it's said that there's still 6-12 minutes of brain activity after everything else is shut down. and a second of dream consciousness is infinitely longer than a waking second. you know how you wake up and you see that it's 8:40 or something and then you go back to bed and you have these crazy long intricate dreams and you wake up again and it's 8:44?

in that 6-12 minutes of brain activity that could actually pretty much be your whole life. it's like your imagination works full time in that  last couple of minutes before death that creates your own sort of afterlife.

after that i look at it the same way as rtil, where there is no consciousness. a dream like that is enough for me.


although, i'm not athiest really. i'd say i'm more agnostic. for some reason this stuff stopped bothering me, but i used to think about it hours on end a few years back.

[rtil]

most of you are skipping this part

[size=]and why do you believe that?[/size]

[WalkingShrub]

I'm serious when I say you took my words.

[naturally]

most of you are skipping this part

[size=]and why do you believe that?[/size]

because it's proven. the whole no consciousness thing after death is just what makes sense to me. it's not that i think any other thing is really impossible, i just think that that's probably what's going to happen. there's no real reason behind how i feel, except maybe that i've had the catholic religion shoved down my throat since a young age.

edit: also that's exactly why i said i was agnostic rather than atheist.

[WalkingShrub]

I think it's interesting that the reasons for being atheist that I've read so far have been in part due to church experience, mine included.

[rtil]

I think it's interesting that the reasons for being atheist that I've read so far have been in part due to church experience, mine included.

the best way to make an atheist out of a reasonable person is to have them just read the bible

[WalkingShrub]

At first I was going to just post "Ahahahahahahaha" but then I realized it's so true. Wait, that makes it funny. Okay, I would have been right in doing so, nevermind.

[Sinitron]

i don't know why i think the way i do, it's just what seems less illogical than everything else to me

[naturally]

I think it's interesting that the reasons for being atheist that I've read so far have been in part due to church experience, mine included.

the best way to make an atheist out of a reasonable person is to have them just read the bible

>reasonable person
>catholics

so we have now established that catholics are not reasonable people. that probably explains why religion is a mandatory course at my school. the only thing that really bothers me about a lot of catholics that i've met is that they're completely opposed to every other possibility. it's no fun getting into arguments about beliefs.

i'll stop here before this turns into religion discussion thread 2011, though.

[cipher]

you rot in the ground


gg

[rtil]

I think it's interesting that the reasons for being atheist that I've read so far have been in part due to church experience, mine included.

the best way to make an atheist out of a reasonable person is to have them just read the bible

>reasonable person
>catholics

so we have now established that catholics are not reasonable people. that probably explains why religion is a mandatory course at my school. the only thing that really bothers me about a lot of catholics that i've met is that they're completely opposed to every other possibility. it's no fun getting into arguments about beliefs.

i'll stop here before this turns into religion discussion thread 2011, though.

yeah i make it a point to never argue with theists. you never change anyone's mind, they have to make that journey on their own

[WalkingShrub]

I was once in a situation where my friend's dad and grandfather called both him and I devil worshippers. It was great.

*Sorry back on track.